Noun refuses supervisor information

[BaoLiang]

I've been trying to get Noun to allow me to escalate this problem above him due to a conflict of interest. He has refused on multiple occasions, I suspect due to his personal reflection on the case and conclusion that he acted incorrectly. Rather than fix the problem, he appears to be trying to hide it from the rest of Relic. Can we perhaps get this forwarded to Lynx and have him provide us the contact information, Ivan?

Noun:
I am writing you because you claimed to be the leader of the group known as COHEXPERTS.

Having browsed the forum cohexperts.proboards.com/ we are considering a full ban for a number of your members.

The site seems to be the location of a number of troll topics designed to ruin the experience of playing our games for the rest of the community.

For example:

cohexperts.proboards.com/thread/6/fighting-november-2012
cohexperts.proboards.com/thread/46/coh2-org

In your chat there is also homophobic harassment of Relic staff, as well the forums have plans to disrupt Relic sponsored events.

We will be making our decision by Friday. If you and other members of the site do not want to be banned you will need to email [e-mail] and explain why we should not ban your accounts from future online play.

Hopefully these explanations will show a realization of what our problem with these sorts of posts are, rather than what we have gotten so far from members of the site.

Thank you for your response and we hope to help you engage with the CoH 2 community in a more positive light in the future.

Me:
I apologize for not having seen this message earlier, since I had been temporarily banned from this site and therefore thought that your post on our site was from a player who wished to troll us, since your actions were so out of the normal actions of a gaming company.

Anyways, Noun, I appreciate that you are trying to help the community in the way that you know best. Honestly, we need more people willing to put in effort to better the COH community and get COH to the level of greatness that it should be.

That being said I am not interested in discussing this issue with you anymore. There is a conflict on interest in your position and I believe that any interaction between us will be a waste of time for both of us.

Please forward me contact information for the person directly above you in your chain of command, so that I don't have to attempt to find it on my own and get the wrong person. I will CC you any contact I have with that person.

Thanks for your cooperation,
Pyotr

NOTE: Turns out I wasn't banned, the hotel connection just sucked and couldn't load it for some reason I think

Noun: 
If you're not interested in engaging in a constructive dialogue then I wish you all the best.

Me: 
Noun, forward me your supervisor's contact information, please.

Noun:
You can contact help.sega.com if you wish to discuss this with a customer service representative.

Thanks.

Me:
Noun, I wish to discuss this with your supervisor since I am talking specifically regarding your actions. By being uncooperative, I fear that you are just making this issue look worse for you.

I can understand the relationship between SEGA and Relic is one of autonomy, which is why you're probably trying to forward me to SEGA.

I'll ask once more before I simply contact anyone I can get a hold of and have them provide me the information for your supervisor; Can you please forward me your supervisor's information?

Thank you.

Noun: 
This has already been escalated to me.

You have your alternate recourse.

Me:
I wish to escalate it further. It appears you have no interest in addressing issues within the community.

I'll be taking my course to your supervisor, thanks for your time, Noun.

[aScientologist]

help.sega.com, noun tried pulling this shit on me after i asked for a refund, should i ask for a supervisior also?

[IronRoman]

Try this www.relic.com/contact/

[BaoLiang]

I'm pretty sure Noun manages most of those if not all.

[croujios]

Bao, i hereby demand you to give me the contact information of your superiors to alert them to the fact that you are acting like a fucking douchebag on the internet. this behavior is otherwise known as "conduct unbecoming". you have posted pictures of yourself in uniform, have identified yourself as a member of the air force, and have threatened and insulted people multiple times (public as well as in private).

u mad bro?

[BaoLiang]

I am stationed at Ramstein AFB, the leadership and contact information is available via google.

[croujios]

no, i want your superiors contact information, not a generic contact line.

[BaoLiang]

UCMJ proceedings are not handled by your direct supervisors, they are handled through the CSS or OSI. Both of their contact information is available publically. They will notify my supervisors when an investigation is opened.

[croujios]

so you still refuse giving out your disciplinary superiors contact information? i don't want any generics, as i said before. just like you don't want "help.sega.com".

[BaoLiang]

"help.sega.com" has already been contacted and stated that they are not the appropriate channel through which we can communicate our problem.

I see what you're trying to do, but the two situations are completely unalike. OSI and CSS are both acceptable means of reporting what you want, where as SEGA and noun are both unable to process our report.

[croujios]

no, i want the contact information for your disciplinary superior. i have never been in the military, so i don't know exactly how it works, but my guess would be that it would be your company commander or something lower than that.

the situations are completely alike. you refuse to give out contact information that could reach somebody that actually knows you, as opposed to some office sitter that has never heard of you.

[BaoLiang]

You pointed out the problem here: "i have never been in the military, so i don't know exactly how it works"

I gave you the people that would you contact for disciplinary means against me, CSS or OSI. My direct supervisor does not discipline me, and never will. He literally performs no function anywhere close to that. Nor do we have companies in the Air Force, just fyi. You don't immediately run to a commander with a disciplinary problem, that's ridiculous.

[BaoLiang]

The whole point is for them to not know me, to avoid conflict of interest, by the way.

[croujios]

...and neither did noun know you, prior to this whole thing
and you refuse to give out the information because you know that you are in the wrong
i might try to find out who to contact about that later on (btw, you haven't even pointed out where the information could be found), but i'm too tired for now... so you have until tomorrow to provide the information, or you prove yourself a hypocrit on top of it all.

[BaoLiang]

You're an idiot, trying to discuss things you don't understand.

www.ramstein.af.mil/main/contactus.asp

You can request public numbers through this means (I'm 86th Airlift wing), unfortunately all I have are DNS numbers. But they are available there.

I have explained this multiple times to you, only because I am hoping you do file something because it will be an hilarious office joke. If you have anymore question, feel free to ask, otherwise I am done repeating the same information.